Yes sir ocifer we were trying to buy a baby and we paid for it
Posted on June 1, 2006 at 10:15:45 PM by Jaime Kenedeno
Wednesday, May 31, 2006
Yes sir ocifer we were trying to buy a baby and we paid for it, but she did not produce the product and we want our money back
""The judge denied bond for 24-year-old Belinda Ramirez saying she's a flight risk, and a danger to the community".
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"Packages were found at the defendants house with addresses matching the victims who sent her money and gifts...I saw video surveillance of her using the gift cards at Wal-Mart""
Now, a few red flags pop up in my mind.
First of all if something sounds too good to be true then.......
Secondly and more so this reminds ME of an illegal transaction (like say human trafficking) gone bad and one of the parties reports it to the authorities.
"However, there are some basic elements of trafficking that are widely agreed upon, such as violence, deception, coercion, deprivations of freedom of movement, abuse of authority, debt bondage, forced labour and slavery-like practices, and other forms of exploitation or use of force.
The above elements are largely and commonly agreed upon, and trafficking is considered to be a violation of the basic rights of women and girls. The issue however, gets mired in controversy and confusion when prostitution too is considered as a violation of the basic human rights of both adult women and minors, and equal to sexual exploitation per se. From this standpoint then, trafficking and prostitution become conflated with each other. This conflation is also historically grounded. It is important to remember that the historical understanding of trafficking in international law has been focussed primarily on the movement of women and girls across borders for the purpose of prostitution. This is indeed the key aspect of the 1949 Convention on the Suppression of Traffic in Person and the Exploitation of Others which declares that the very entry of a woman into prostitution with or without her consent, and third party involvement is an offence.
"there is a growing agreement that the problem of 'trafficking in human beings' involves two key elements: recruitment/transport and forced labor or slavery-like practices (actual or attempted) ... Moreover, most experts agree that trafficking should be defined as involving deception or coercion of some kind."
Yes sir ocifer we were trying to buy a baby and we paid for it, but she did not produce the product and we want our money back.
Deception is common in the black market and when attorneys and adoption agencies are circumvented; the players (now illegally conspiring to traffic or sell a human being) become dealers and consumers in the Black Market. High risks and lucrative returns but most of all any contract is void when it violates Statutory Law.
Basically, the courts will not get involved in any suit that involves illegality or immorality.
Therefore, fraud would be based on a legal agreement between two parties. In this case the agreement involved an illegal transaction since it is illegal to buy sell or trade human beings. In the Belinda Ramirez case, she was not obligated to produce a baby in return unless there is a contract agreement in which Laura Valois' Attorney and Adoption Agency would have required. Undoubtedly, the gifts and such were outside of the agreement if there was one.
It amazes ME how a Media Entity such as KRIS TV (NBC) would take the word of a New Yorker without any requirement of documentation or investigation. It is highly irresponsible and unprofessional to advocate for a YUPPIE who was obviously was conspiring to purchase and traffic a human being (a newborn baby).
Now if the girl knew she was not pregnant WATT then?
It is possible she knew all along while she was defrauding those conspiring to commit a criminal act.
Does that make the YUPPIES victims?
Or Criminals?
Another issue would be the entering into a contract with a party of diminished mental capacity.
Hypothetically, if the girl was selling heroin and the Yuppies were giving her "gifts" in good faith as consideration, does her not providing the illegal and illicit drug make the buyers victims?
Bottom Line: If the transaction was illegal the both parties committed felonius acts against the human race.
Of course, according to KRIS TV the mentally diminished Texan victimized the New Yorker YUPPIES.
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"We feel it's unfair that the alleged victims are being portrayed in such an innocent light when it appears to us that they were not going through lawyers, they were not going through adoption agencies, and they were tendering this money voluntarily to my client as if they were gifts," said defense attorney Mark Dicarlo"
http://kristv.com/Global/story.asp?S=4973111&nav=menu192_1
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WATT happened on LAGO this morning
Posted on June 2, 2006 at 08:03:09 PM by Jaime Kenedeno
Threats only make us more determined.
And if these haters have any brains they will realize true influence results out of men and women of action. If you gonna do somethin the by all means dont warn us.
Rhetoric only is effective when the integrity of the words are determined by the imminence of the foretold outcome. Action when they call your bluff.
Lago thugs I am calling your bluff. I am the e Advocate for said party Belinda Ramirez.
I am quality assurance in the flesh.
Wat is good for the goose is good for the ggander.
AND EQUAL JUSTICE FOR ALL!
RIGHT JOE FLORES??????
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Re(1): WATT happened on LAGO this morning
Posted on June 3, 2006 at 01:26:00 PM by Elwood Blues
"I am the e Advocate for said party Belinda Ramirez".
LOL..you sure know how to pick 'em..don't you,Jaime? You "advocate" for the Fernandezes,then they stab you in the back (by your account,anyway)..now you're going to advocate for this skank who's got a history of defrauding people.
I guess you didn't read both the Channel 6 stories on this piece of work.She's jailed with no bond because she conned at least SEVEN (7) people out of money and gifts,which is why they've charged her with several counts of fraud and wire fraud.Pretty much shoots down her story that this last couple just "gave her gifts"..doesn't it? According to federal authorities,Ramirez targeted people who wanted to adopt a baby.
Laura Valois said they DID use a lawyer to secure the adoption,and only sent money and merchandise AFTER it was requested.Valois said, "She (Ramirez) would call and say needed money for rent,for a down payment,for a deposit for that apartment,her cell phone..everything she asked".
Ramirez has also been previously arrested for forgery,Jaime.
Like I said,dude..you sure know how to pick'em...
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Every single one of the seven....
Posted on June 3, 2006 at 01:55:37 PM by Jaime Kenedeno
were engaging in the purchase of a baby.
I sure know how to pick em? I help people who need it most and recieve it the least.
I advocate for her yes; if she is guilty then so are the black market buyers. She has a diminished mental capacity and every single human being accused of a crime is innocent until proven guilty. They are also entitled to bond under certain conditions. Even the accused must be afforded certain procedural rights. Not every single person we stand by is innocent but they are guaranteed certain inalienable rights. We are Quality Assurance. Nice to hear from you pal. Regardless of a client's guilt or innocence an attorney or advocate cannot allow threats to go unaddressed. Most criminal defense is defending the guilty. Such is life.
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key word here, "registered" where is the pregancy test?
Posted on June 5, 2006 at 07:25:30 AM by Jaime Kenedeno
"had registered with several adoption agencies"
DO YOU BELIEVE THIS TO BE TRUE?
I dont believe it and let ME tell you why:
Proof of pregancy would have been the first bar to clear. Do you think adoption agencies just take the word of just any "would be con"?
Also, it is my understanding adoption agencies make regular home visits. They look for signs of "nesting" to determine and assure their clients of a perfect choice.
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If the "Victims" would have went through an adoption agency......
Posted on June 6, 2006 at 03:50:08 AM by Jaime Kenedeno
Extensive Acceptance Procedures for Birth Parents
We believe that the initial contact by a birth parent is an emotional event. We understand that deciding to place a child for adoption is one of the most difficult decisions a mother will ever have to make. Our policy is to personally meet with the birth mother within 24 hours of our initial phone contact with her.
Once we determine that the birth parent is committed to making an adoption plan for their child we assist them in completing the necessary paperwork for the adoption. This includes a detailed application and medical/social history among many others. The birth mother is then assigned to a case worker who counsels the birth parents on their decision to seek adoption of their child. We obtain medical releases and all available medical records pertaining to the birth mother and/or the prenatal care of the baby. We also receive results of tests for HIV, Hepatitis, drug and alcohol use, etc. We verify the pregnancy of the birth mother and her OB-GYN exam results.
http://www.adoptionadvantage.com/adoptive_parent/index.php?option=content&task=view&id=14
Wednesday, May 31, 2006
Yes sir ocifer we were trying to buy a baby and we paid for it, but she did not produce the product and we want our money back
""The judge denied bond for 24-year-old Belinda Ramirez saying she's a flight risk, and a danger to the community".
=====================================================================================
"Packages were found at the defendants house with addresses matching the victims who sent her money and gifts...I saw video surveillance of her using the gift cards at Wal-Mart""
Now, a few red flags pop up in my mind.
First of all if something sounds too good to be true then.......
Secondly and more so this reminds ME of an illegal transaction (like say human trafficking) gone bad and one of the parties reports it to the authorities.
"However, there are some basic elements of trafficking that are widely agreed upon, such as violence, deception, coercion, deprivations of freedom of movement, abuse of authority, debt bondage, forced labour and slavery-like practices, and other forms of exploitation or use of force.
The above elements are largely and commonly agreed upon, and trafficking is considered to be a violation of the basic rights of women and girls. The issue however, gets mired in controversy and confusion when prostitution too is considered as a violation of the basic human rights of both adult women and minors, and equal to sexual exploitation per se. From this standpoint then, trafficking and prostitution become conflated with each other. This conflation is also historically grounded. It is important to remember that the historical understanding of trafficking in international law has been focussed primarily on the movement of women and girls across borders for the purpose of prostitution. This is indeed the key aspect of the 1949 Convention on the Suppression of Traffic in Person and the Exploitation of Others which declares that the very entry of a woman into prostitution with or without her consent, and third party involvement is an offence.
"there is a growing agreement that the problem of 'trafficking in human beings' involves two key elements: recruitment/transport and forced labor or slavery-like practices (actual or attempted) ... Moreover, most experts agree that trafficking should be defined as involving deception or coercion of some kind."
Yes sir ocifer we were trying to buy a baby and we paid for it, but she did not produce the product and we want our money back.
Deception is common in the black market and when attorneys and adoption agencies are circumvented; the players (now illegally conspiring to traffic or sell a human being) become dealers and consumers in the Black Market. High risks and lucrative returns but most of all any contract is void when it violates Statutory Law.
Basically, the courts will not get involved in any suit that involves illegality or immorality.
Therefore, fraud would be based on a legal agreement between two parties. In this case the agreement involved an illegal transaction since it is illegal to buy sell or trade human beings. In the Belinda Ramirez case, she was not obligated to produce a baby in return unless there is a contract agreement in which Laura Valois' Attorney and Adoption Agency would have required. Undoubtedly, the gifts and such were outside of the agreement if there was one.
It amazes ME how a Media Entity such as KRIS TV (NBC) would take the word of a New Yorker without any requirement of documentation or investigation. It is highly irresponsible and unprofessional to advocate for a YUPPIE who was obviously was conspiring to purchase and traffic a human being (a newborn baby).
Now if the girl knew she was not pregnant WATT then?
It is possible she knew all along while she was defrauding those conspiring to commit a criminal act.
Does that make the YUPPIES victims?
Or Criminals?
Another issue would be the entering into a contract with a party of diminished mental capacity.
Hypothetically, if the girl was selling heroin and the Yuppies were giving her "gifts" in good faith as consideration, does her not providing the illegal and illicit drug make the buyers victims?
Bottom Line: If the transaction was illegal the both parties committed felonius acts against the human race.
Of course, according to KRIS TV the mentally diminished Texan victimized the New Yorker YUPPIES.
========================================
"We feel it's unfair that the alleged victims are being portrayed in such an innocent light when it appears to us that they were not going through lawyers, they were not going through adoption agencies, and they were tendering this money voluntarily to my client as if they were gifts," said defense attorney Mark Dicarlo"
http://kristv.com/Global/story.asp?S=4973111&nav=menu192_1
=====================================================================================================
WATT happened on LAGO this morning
Posted on June 2, 2006 at 08:03:09 PM by Jaime Kenedeno
Threats only make us more determined.
And if these haters have any brains they will realize true influence results out of men and women of action. If you gonna do somethin the by all means dont warn us.
Rhetoric only is effective when the integrity of the words are determined by the imminence of the foretold outcome. Action when they call your bluff.
Lago thugs I am calling your bluff. I am the e Advocate for said party Belinda Ramirez.
I am quality assurance in the flesh.
Wat is good for the goose is good for the ggander.
AND EQUAL JUSTICE FOR ALL!
RIGHT JOE FLORES??????
===================================================================================
Re(1): WATT happened on LAGO this morning
Posted on June 3, 2006 at 01:26:00 PM by Elwood Blues
"I am the e Advocate for said party Belinda Ramirez".
LOL..you sure know how to pick 'em..don't you,Jaime? You "advocate" for the Fernandezes,then they stab you in the back (by your account,anyway)..now you're going to advocate for this skank who's got a history of defrauding people.
I guess you didn't read both the Channel 6 stories on this piece of work.She's jailed with no bond because she conned at least SEVEN (7) people out of money and gifts,which is why they've charged her with several counts of fraud and wire fraud.Pretty much shoots down her story that this last couple just "gave her gifts"..doesn't it? According to federal authorities,Ramirez targeted people who wanted to adopt a baby.
Laura Valois said they DID use a lawyer to secure the adoption,and only sent money and merchandise AFTER it was requested.Valois said, "She (Ramirez) would call and say needed money for rent,for a down payment,for a deposit for that apartment,her cell phone..everything she asked".
Ramirez has also been previously arrested for forgery,Jaime.
Like I said,dude..you sure know how to pick'em...
==================================================================================
Every single one of the seven....
Posted on June 3, 2006 at 01:55:37 PM by Jaime Kenedeno
were engaging in the purchase of a baby.
I sure know how to pick em? I help people who need it most and recieve it the least.
I advocate for her yes; if she is guilty then so are the black market buyers. She has a diminished mental capacity and every single human being accused of a crime is innocent until proven guilty. They are also entitled to bond under certain conditions. Even the accused must be afforded certain procedural rights. Not every single person we stand by is innocent but they are guaranteed certain inalienable rights. We are Quality Assurance. Nice to hear from you pal. Regardless of a client's guilt or innocence an attorney or advocate cannot allow threats to go unaddressed. Most criminal defense is defending the guilty. Such is life.
===================================================================================================
key word here, "registered" where is the pregancy test?
Posted on June 5, 2006 at 07:25:30 AM by Jaime Kenedeno
"had registered with several adoption agencies"
DO YOU BELIEVE THIS TO BE TRUE?
I dont believe it and let ME tell you why:
Proof of pregancy would have been the first bar to clear. Do you think adoption agencies just take the word of just any "would be con"?
Also, it is my understanding adoption agencies make regular home visits. They look for signs of "nesting" to determine and assure their clients of a perfect choice.
==========================================================================================
If the "Victims" would have went through an adoption agency......
Posted on June 6, 2006 at 03:50:08 AM by Jaime Kenedeno
Extensive Acceptance Procedures for Birth Parents
We believe that the initial contact by a birth parent is an emotional event. We understand that deciding to place a child for adoption is one of the most difficult decisions a mother will ever have to make. Our policy is to personally meet with the birth mother within 24 hours of our initial phone contact with her.
Once we determine that the birth parent is committed to making an adoption plan for their child we assist them in completing the necessary paperwork for the adoption. This includes a detailed application and medical/social history among many others. The birth mother is then assigned to a case worker who counsels the birth parents on their decision to seek adoption of their child. We obtain medical releases and all available medical records pertaining to the birth mother and/or the prenatal care of the baby. We also receive results of tests for HIV, Hepatitis, drug and alcohol use, etc. We verify the pregnancy of the birth mother and her OB-GYN exam results.
http://www.adoptionadvantage.com/adoptive_parent/index.php?option=content&task=view&id=14
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